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 +====== Liste de cartes graphiques et compatibilité avec Rhino. ======
  
 +=====Quelles cartes graphiques recommandez-vous pour Rhino ?=====
 +
 +**//Nous ne faisons pas de recommandations ni comparaisons spécifiques.//**
 +
 +Consultez également ces pages :
 +  * [[http://wiki.mcneel.com/rhino/rhino5videocards|Recommandations de cartes vidéo et configuration générale]]
 +  * [[http://wiki.mcneel.com/rhino/hardwarebaseline|Guide matériel pour Rhinoceros 5]]
 +
 +**Vous trouverez ci-dessous une liste de cartes graphiques et des commentaires sur leur fonctionnement dans Rhino.**
 +----
 +Si vous voulez ajouter une carte, utilisez toutes les entrées du tableau et ajoutez autant de détails possibles.  Le lien ci-dessous est un script de Rhino qui vous permettra d'obtenir plus d'informations sur votre système vidéo que vous ne l'imaginez :  http://en.wiki.mcneel.com/content/upload/files/video.zip
 +Merci.  John Brock
 +
 +---- (Ajouté le 14/03/2013)
 +| Marque | Intel |
 +| Modèle | Intel HD Graphics 4000 |
 +| <color red>NON RECOMMANDÉE</color> par : | John Brock|
 +| Remarques : | Les ordinateurs, tels que les Apple MacBook 13", MacBook Pro 13" et Retina 13", ainsi que tous les ordinateurs portables disposant uniquement d'un processeur graphique Intel intégré, devraient être évités avec Rhino pour Windows. Ce format ne gère pas correctement Windows OpenGL. Vous rencontreriez de nombreux problèmes que nous ne pourrions pas résoudre. De nombreux ordinateurs portables hybrides ont une deuxième puce graphique haute performance (de AMD ou Nvidia), conçue pour les applications gourmandes en opérations graphiques, et fonctionnent très bien. **Ces ordinateurs hybrides sont recommandés.**|
 +
 +---- (Ajouté le 3/1/2013 - Actualisé le 24/7/2013)
 +| Marque || NVIDIA |
 +| Modèle | Quadro 600 |
 +| Commentaires de : | John Brock |
 +| Remarques : |**Voir la note de Juillet 2013 ci-dessous :** Pour le moment, mon expérience avec la Quadro 600 a été plutôt mauvaise. J'ai rencontré des problèmes de plantage en utilisant leur pilote 310.90. L'équipe d'assistance de Nvidia a suggéré d'installer la version 311.35 (pilotes actuel), en utilisant l'option Custom et en sélectionnant une installation "clean". Le pilote actuel n'est pas mieux. Toutes les quelques minutes, Rhino et les fenêtres de Chrome ouvertes s'affichent en noir et un message apparaît indiquant que le pilote NVIDIA ne répond plus et qu'il a été réinitialisé. Rhino et Chrome sont ensuite bloqués. Même lorsque Rhino n'est pas ouvert, il arrive que Chrome se bloque. Je ne recommande pas ces cartes pour le moment. Je l'ai retirée de mon système.|
 +| Autres remarques : | Des utilisateurs ont indiqué qu'ils avaient des problèmes de performance et d'affichage avec les pilotes Quadro actuels. Il semble que la prise en charge des paramètres OpenGL 2.0 et Shader 1.2 ne soit pas aussi robuste qu'avant. Certains utilisateurs ont indiqué une perte de performance avec les cartes Quadro entre Rhino 4 et Rhino 5. Rhino 5 SR2 présente une modification qui semble améliorer la performance pour ces cartes Quadro.|
 +| **Mise à jour de juillet 2013** - JB : | Ce mois, NVIDIA a sorti une **mise à jour importante des pilotes** qui semble corriger de nombreux problèmes avec les cartes Quadro, y compris la Quadro 600. Les anciens pilotes de cette cartes  plantaient continuellement et redémarraient même avec des actions très simples telles que l'ouverture du navigateur Google Chrome. La mise à jour de ce mois semble corriger ces problèmes sur Windows 7 et 8. **Je n'hésite plus à recommander ces cartes maintenant.**|
 +
 +---- (Ajouté le 3/1/2013 - Actualisé le 8/5/13)
 +| Marque || NVIDIA |
 +| Modèle | GTX |
 +| Recommandée par : | Brian James |
 +| Remarques : | J'ai utilisé quelques cartes de cette série y compris la GTX 470 et la GTX 690. Les deux ont très bien fonctionné et de nombreux pilotes sont disponibles sur le site de NVIDIA si votre combinaison matérielle pose problŇme.  L'actualisation des pilotes résoud souvent les problèmes.  |
 +
 +---- (Ajouté le 16/12/2011)
 +| Marque || AMD |
 +| Modèle | FirePro v7900 et FirePro v5900 |
 +| Recommandée par : | Jeff Lasor |
 +| Remarques : | It turns out that I just recently completed a certification process for AMD using both the v5900 and v7900, and McNeel was even mentioned in their launch of these cards. Both very nice cards and both work incredibly well, especially given their very small footprints compared to other cards. Long story short, I've replaced my FirePro v8800 in my development box with the FirePro v7900. Yes, it's that good. All I can say is that AMD is now doing a great job getting their cards working for real life situations and programs rather than trying to figure out what the next marketing hype can be made about something that rhymes with Pooduh. All of the latest V5 display features have been tested and confirmed as working for the v5900 and v7900. If you can afford the 7900 then get it. The 5900 performance is not as good, but again, it's amazing how good it really is given its overall size, power consumption and heat generation. Two thumbs up for AMD! |
 +
 +|Addition August 2012: | **//Several advanced users on the Rhino newsgroup have reported bad experiences with this card in the area of antialiasing//** - which is far inferior to Nvidia cards - to the point of removing the cards from their machines and going back to an Nvidia card.  Jeff himself has stated //"Nvidia has been, is, and probably always will be better at AA than AMD... Why? I have no idea. Will it change? I have no idea? Can I fix it on my end? I have no idea, but so far I don't think so."//   So, if you are planning to buy one of these cards, make sure to check the newsgroup and do your research first. |
 +
 +---- (Added 4/11/2011)
 +| Brand | AMD/ATI |
 +| Model | FirePro V5800 |
 +| Recommended by: | Aya Maeda |
 +| Driver version: | ATI driver 8.77.6.3 Rev.A |
 +| Notes: | This card had strange display problems when Zooming and Panning until the user called AMD and they recommended the above listed drivers. These cards were originally recommended for Microstation. Do not use the "Use region buffers when available" in OpenGL options. |
 +
 +---- (Added 3/2/2011)
 +| Brand | Nvidia |
 +| Model | Nvidia GTX 295 |
 +| Recommended by: | Rhino Support Newsgroup |
 +| Notes: | The newer GTX 300, 400, and 500 series replacements seems to be intentionally disabled for OpenGL performance. Their OpenGL performance is measurably slower than the GTX 295. |
 +
 +---- (Added 3/2/2011)
 +| Brand | Nvidia |
 +| Model | Nvidia Quadro 4000, 5000, 6000 |
 +| Recommended by: | Rhino Support Newsgroup |
 +| Notes: | These are expensive cards but deliver better performance than the GTX 295. Most users report good performance and minimal issues using the ODE drivers. |
 +
 +
 +---- (Added 3/2/2011)
 +| Brand | Intel|
 +| Model | Intel HD Graphics|
 +| <color red>NOT RECOMMENDED</color> BY: | John Brock, <tech@mcneel.com> |
 +| Note: | I manually process a lot of Rhino crash reports. These cards are total junk for OpenGL based applications like Rhino. <color red>AVOID THEM!</color> Lots of crashes even with relatively simple commands like PictureFrame. Be aware that many laptop makers are using these. AVOID THEM! |
 +
 +---- (Added 3/2/2011)
 +| Brand | Intel|
 +| Model | Intel 82865G Graphics Controller|
 +| Model | Intel 82945G Express Chipset Family|
 +| Model | Mobile Intel 4 Series Express Chipset Family|
 +| <color red>NOT RECOMMENDED</color> BY: | John Brock, <tech@mcneel.com> |
 +| Note: | These are more bad cards. These cards are not intended for OpenGL based, graphics intensive applications like Rhino. They are commonly found on inexpensive laptops intended for email, Internet browsing, and are good for very little else. That said, they will work, but they do not support accelerated graphics. |
 +
 +---- (Added 1/4/2011)
 +
 +| Brand | NVIDIA |
 +| Model | Quadro 1800 and 2000 series |
 +| Recommended by: | Jørgen, <holo1@holografisk.no> |
 +| Note: | If you work a lot with curves or isocurves visible. These are great with Rhino. |
 +
 +---- (Added 1/4/2011)
 +
 +| Brand | NVIDIA |
 +| Model | [[rhino:geforce|GeForce]] 2xx series |
 +| Recommended by: | Jørgen, <holo1@holografisk.no> |
 +| Note: | The nVida Geforce 4xx and 5xx series are apparently no faster than the previous generations. So go for the 2xx series instead. |
 + 
 +---- (Added 1/4/2011)
 +
 +| Brand | AMD/ATI |
 +| Model | FirePro V8750, V8800 |
 +| Recommended by: | Jeff LaSor, <jeff@mcneel.com> |
 +| Note: | My development box has the FirePro v8750 in it (for over a year now), and it's what I've been using to development most of the newer V5 display features. |
 +
 +---- (Added 1/4/2011)
 +
 +| Brand | AMD/ATI |
 +| Model | Radeon 4000 & 5000 series |
 +| Recommended by: | Jeff LaSor, <jeff@mcneel.com> |
 +| Note: | I've also have the Radeon 4870 and it works really well too. |
 + 
 +
 +======The following entries are still valid but are getting pretty old. -JB======
 +| Brand | NVIDIA |
 +| Model | [[rhino:geforce|GeForce]] 8600M GT 256MB |
 +| BIOS version | Apple - 70 |
 +| Driver version | 6.14.11.134 |
 +| Operating system & SP level | Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 |
 +| Special Rhino settings | None |
 +| Special driver settings | None |
 +| Rhino versions used with | V4 SR2 |
 +| Known problems | |
 +| Comments | I've been using this card in a [[MACBOOK]] Pro and have no complaints.|
 +| Submitted by: | Brian James, <brian.james@mcneel.com> |
 +
 +----
 +
 +| Brand | NVIDIA |
 +| Model | [[rhino:geforce|GeForce]] FX 5200 128MB |
 +| BIOS version | 4.34.20.22.A1 |
 +| Driver version | 6.14.10.6693 |
 +| Operating system & SP level | Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 |
 +| Special Rhino settings | Redraw viewport when Rhino becomes active enabled |
 +| Special driver settings | None |
 +| Rhino versions used with | V2, V3, V4 |
 +| Known problems | In V3, sometimes the Status Bar labels (Snap, Ortho, etc.) do not show but still are active. Also surface selection in shaded mode has highlight problems.|
 +| Comments | This card works fine on all versions of Rhino.   It supports Rhino's special graphics modes.  Even though it is a "game" card its performance is good and it is not very expensive.  This was one of the cards that was used for testing the new V4 display pipeline.  We found lots of little details during the V4 development with this card.  Mine is running in a Dell Dimension 4600 system. |
 +| Submitted by: | John Brock, <jb@mcneel.com> |
 +
 +----
 +
 +| Brand | NVIDIA |
 +| Model | Quadro FX Go 700 128MB|
 +| BIOS version | 4.31.20.52.C2|
 +| Driver version | 6.14.10.4424 |
 +| Operating system & SP level | Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 |
 +| Special Rhino settings | None |
 +| Special driver settings | None |
 +| Rhino versions used with | V2, V3, V4 |
 +| Known problems | None |
 +| Comments | This card works very well and is one of the few "workstation graphics" cards available on laptop computers.  The "Quadro" line of cards is designed for [[rhino:opengl|OpenGL]] graphics applications like Rhino. This was one of the cards that was used for testing the new V4 display pipeline.  This card has always been a solid performer for me.  It is running in a Dell Precision M60 laptop.|
 +| Submitted by: | John Brock, <jb@mcneel.com> |
 +
 +----
 +
 +| Brand | NVIDIA |
 +| Model | [[rhino:geforce|GeForce]] FX Go 5650 128MB|
 +| BIOS version | 4.31.20.52.C6|
 +| Driver version | 6.7.4.2 |
 +| Operating system & SP level | Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 |
 +| Special Rhino settings | I use v4s TestSetAAlevel at 8 and it looks pretty good and does not slow down too much. |
 +| Special driver settings | Vertical sync turned off, AA set to be controlled by applications |
 +| Rhino versions used with | V2, V3, V4 |
 +| Known problems | None |
 +| Comments | So far so good- it drives a 1900 by 1200 screen and seems to work well.|
 +| Submitted by: | [[rhino:pascal_golay|Pascal Golay]] <pascal@mcneel.com>|
 +
 +----
 +
 +| Brand | NVIDIA |
 +| Model | PNY Quadro FX 330 64 MB RAM|
 +| BIOS version | 4.34.20.84.06|
 +| Driver version | 6.14.10.6693 |
 +| Operating system & SP level | Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 |
 +| Special Rhino settings | None |
 +| Special driver settings | None |
 +| Rhino versions used with | V2, V3, V4 |
 +| Known problems | None |
 +| Comments | PCI-Express card, passive cooling (no noise), in my opinion a great [[rhino:opengl|OpenGL]] CAD-graphic card with a very good price/performance relation.|
 +| Submitted by: | Michael Meyer AT flexiCAD com|
 +
 +----
 +
 +| Brand | NVIDIA |
 +| Model | BFG 6800GT OC 256MB|
 +| BIOS version | 5.40.02.15.05|
 +| Driver version | 7.1.8.9 |
 +| Operating system & SP level | Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 |
 +| Special Rhino settings | None |
 +| Special driver settings | Vertical sync turned off, AA set to be conctrilled by applications |
 +| Rhino versions used with | V2, V3, V4 |
 +| Known problems | None |
 +| Comments | I am seeing some odd slowdowns and viewport blackouts after pushing unreasonably large models all day relating to maximized viewports only |
 +| Submitted by: | Sam Page |
 +
 +----
 +
 +| Brand | ATI |
 +| Model | Mobility Radeon 9700 128Mb|
 +| BIOS version | BK-ATI VER 008.017M.109.000|
 +| Driver version | 8.162.0.0 Catalyst 5.8 - using the original ATI drivers for the standard Radeon graphic cards and Patje's Mobility Modder (http://www.driverheaven.net/patje/) |
 +| Operating system & SP level | Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 |
 +| Special Rhino settings | None |
 +| Special driver settings | Disable AA or set AA to application controlled |
 +| Rhino versions used with | V3, V4 |
 +| Known problems | In V3: disappearing Objects and Screen-Smudge in rendered viewports when AA is enabled |
 +| Comments | This graphics card is often found in consumer notebooks and has very good general 3D performance. If it weren't for the glitches when using AA it would be an excellent budget solution for using Rhino on a latop |
 +| Submitted by: | Simon Crowder |
 +
 +----
 +
 +| Brand | ATI |
 +| Model | Mobility Radeon 9000 128MB (laptop) |
 +| BIOS version | 008.007.010.000 |
 +| Driver version | Omega Drivers 2.6.53 (http://www.omegadrivers.net/)|
 +| Operating system & SP level | Windows XP Pro Service Pack 1 |
 +|Special Rhino settings | None |
 +| Special driver settings | None |
 +| Rhino versions used with | V2, V3, V4 |
 +| Known problems | Lots |
 +| Comments | No matter what drivers I try, I run into problems. Had problems any time four viewports used [[rhino:opengl|OpenGL]] (crashed Rhino), then changed drivers and now I cannot get any anti-aliasing. I cannot recommend this card at all. |
 +|Submitted by: |Heath Satow |
 +
 +----
 +
 +| Brand | Nvidia |
 +| Model | [[rhino:geforce|GeForce]] 4200 GO |
 +| BIOS version | 4.28.20.31.10 |
 +| Driver version | 6.7.4.2 |
 +| Operating system & SP level | Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2 |
 +|Special Rhino settings | None |
 +| Special driver settings | Vertical Sync turned off |
 +| Rhino versions used with | V3, V4 |
 +| Known problems | None |
 +| Comments | If you make sure to turn iff vertical sync, no problems at all. It's an old card by now, but still works |
 +|Submitted by: |Jakob Normand |
 +
 +----
 +| Brand | ATI |
 +| Model | RADEON X800 |
 +| BIOS version | 113-AA61300-101|
 +| Driver version | 6.14.10.6517|
 +| Operating system & SP level | Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2|
 +|Special Rhino settings | None |
 +| Special driver settings | None|
 +| Rhino versions used with | V3, V4 |
 +| Known problems | None |
 +| Comments | This card works fine,  All the settings are defaults or let Application decide. I use 2 TFT Monitors each runing at 1280 x 1024 and can stretch Rhino across both with no problems or artefacts|
 +|Submitted by: |Mark Sharman, <msharman@bom.co.uk>|
 +
 +----
 +
 +| Brand | ATI |
 +| Model | RADEON 7000 |
 +| BIOS version | unknown |
 +| Driver version | 6.14.10.6599|
 +| Operating system & SP level | Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2|
 +|Special Rhino settings | None |
 +| Special driver settings | Dual display |
 +| Rhino versions used with | V3, V4 |
 +| Known problems | Toolbar child positioning, floating viewports |
 +| Comments | This card worked fine with V3, but was very buggy with V4. Performance was mediocre on a 2.8 GHz P4. With 2 monitors and the 2nd monitor housing a floating perspective viewport, there was often corruption of the display requiring a re-start. Child menus for the toolbar buttons also do not appear at the cursor location when using the ATI dual monitor desktop manager (Hydravision).|
 +|Submitted by: |B. Gom|
 +
 +----
 +
 +| Brand | ATI |
 +| Model | RADEON X1600Pro|
 +| BIOS version | 009.012.006.002 |
 +| Driver version | 6.14.10.6599|
 +| Operating system & SP level | Windows XP Pro Service Pack 2|
 +|Special Rhino settings | None |
 +| Special driver settings | Dual display |
 +| Rhino versions used with | V4 |
 +| Known problems | Toolbar child positioning, object snap tooltip corrupted|
 +| Comments | This card was installed to improve the performance over the 7000 series card. 3D display is much faster, but ultimately limited by the main processor speed when drawing complex scenes. Corruption of the viewport contents seems to no longer be a problem with this card, although child menus for the toolbar buttons also do not appear at the cursor location when using the ATI dual monitor desktop manager (Hydravision). Enabling full antialiasing on the card improves the 3D display (shaded, ghosted, etc) while not significantly reducing the performace, however, in wireframe viewports the lines suffer a lot of blurring. Antialiasing can not be enabled on only one monitor in a dual monitor display using the graphics driver (TestSetAALevel does work, however). Tooltips for the object snap display worked initially, but now are corrupted and unreadable. The official workaround of adjusting the windows video performance slider one step to the left seems to work.|
 +|Submitted by: |B. Gom|
 +
 +----