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-=====What Graphics Cards do you recommend for use with Rhino?=====+======Graphics Cards======
  
-**//We do not make any specific hardware recommendations or comparisons.//​**+**What graphics cards do you recommend for use with Rhino?** 
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 +//We do not make any specific hardware recommendations or comparisons.//​
  
 Also see these pages: Also see these pages:
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   * [[http://​wiki.mcneel.com/​rhino/​hardwarebaseline|Hardware Guidelines for Rhino 5]]   * [[http://​wiki.mcneel.com/​rhino/​hardwarebaseline|Hardware Guidelines for Rhino 5]]
  
-Note: If you are experiencing video trouble with your current computer try [[rhino:​5:​video:​troubleshooting|Rhino Display Troubleshooting]] to fix the problem.+**Note:** If you are experiencing video trouble with your current computer try [[rhino:​5:​video:​troubleshooting|Rhino Display Troubleshooting]] to fix the problem.
  
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 **The following is a list of graphics cards with details for how they work with Rhino.** **The following is a list of graphics cards with details for how they work with Rhino.**
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-As you add your listing, please use all of the table entries and add as much detail as you can.  Here is a link to a Rhino script that will give you more information about your video system than you probably want to know:  http://​en.wiki.mcneel.com/​content/​upload/​files/​video.zip 
-Thanks. ​ John Brock 
  
----- (Added 3/14/2013)+As you add to the list, please use all of the table entries and add as much detail as you can.  Here is a link to a Rhino script that will give you more information about your video system than you probably want to know:  http://​en.wiki.mcneel.com/​content/​upload/​files/​video.zip 
 + 
 +//--Thanks. John Brock (Added 3/14/2013)// 
 | Brand | Intel | | Brand | Intel |
 | Model | Intel HD Graphics 4000 | | Model | Intel HD Graphics 4000 |
 | <color red>Not recommended</​color>​ by: | John Brock| | <color red>Not recommended</​color>​ by: | John Brock|
-| Notes: | Computers including 13" Apple MacBook, 13" MacBook Pro, 13" Retina, and any brand laptop that only has the embedded Intel graphics chip, should be avoided for Rhino for Windows. This chip does not support Windows OpenGL adequately. You will be plagued with problems we can not fix. Many '​Hybrid' ​laptops also have a secondary ​'high performance' ​graphics chip (by AMD or Nvidia), intended for graphics intensive applications,​ that do work very well. **These hybrid computers are recommended.**|+| Notes: | Computers including 13" Apple MacBook, 13" MacBook Pro, 13" Retina, and any brand laptop that only has the embedded Intel graphics chip, should be avoided for Rhino for Windows. This chip does not support Windows OpenGL adequately. You will be plagued with problems we can not fix. Many hybrid ​laptops also have a secondary high performance graphics chip (by AMD or NVIDIA), intended for graphics intensive applications,​ that do work very well. **These hybrid computers are recommended.**|
  
----- (Added 1/3/2013 - Updated 7/​24/​2013) +//-- (Added 1/3/2013 - Updated 7/24/2013)// 
-| Brand | Nvidia ​|+ 
 +| Brand | NVIDIA ​|
 | Model | Quadro 600 | | Model | Quadro 600 |
 | Comments by: | John Brock | | Comments by: | John Brock |
-| Notes: |**See August 2014 update note below:** So far, my experience with the Quadro 600 has been pretty bad. I ran into crashing problems using their driver version 310.90. ​Nvidia ​tech support suggested installing 311.35 (current drivers). I installed using the Custom option and selecting a "clean" ​install. The current driver is no better. Every few minutes, Rhino and any open Chrome browser windows turn black, with a message that the Nvidia ​driver had stopped responding and had recovered. It locks up Rhino and Chrome. Rhino didn't even have to be running and Chrome still locked up. I can not currently recommend these cards. I have removed it from my system.| +| Notes: |**See ​the August 2014 update note below.** So far, my experience with the Quadro 600 has been pretty bad. I ran into crashing problems using their driver version 310.90. ​NVIDIA ​tech support suggested installing 311.35 (current drivers). I installed using the Custom option and selecting a clean install. The current driver is no better. Every few minutes, Rhino and any open Chrome browser windows turn black, with a message that the NVIDIA ​driver had stopped responding and had recovered. It locks up Rhino and Chrome. Rhino didn't even have to be running and Chrome still locked up. I can not currently recommend these cards. I have removed it from my system.| 
-| More notes: | Recently, ​a number of users have been reporting performance and display problems with the current Quadro drivers. It seems that support for the OpenGL 2.0 and Shader 1.2 specifications are not as robust as they once were. Some users are reporting performance degradation with Quadro cards between Rhino V4 and V5. Rhino 5 SR2 includes a change that seems to improve performance for these Quadro cards.|+ 
 +| More notes: | Recently, ​several ​users have been reporting performance and display problems with the current Quadro drivers. It seems that support for the OpenGL 2.0 and Shader 1.2 specifications are not as robust as they once were. Some users are reporting performance degradation with Quadro cards between Rhino V4 and V5. Rhino 5 SR2 includes a change that seems to improve performance for these Quadro cards.|
 | **August 2014 update** | This month, NVIDIA issued a **major driver update** that seems to have fixed many of the problems reported with Quadro cards. The new driver update 340.66 issued this month seems to have fixed these problems for both Windows 7 and Windows 8. **I have no reservations in recommending these cards now.**| | **August 2014 update** | This month, NVIDIA issued a **major driver update** that seems to have fixed many of the problems reported with Quadro cards. The new driver update 340.66 issued this month seems to have fixed these problems for both Windows 7 and Windows 8. **I have no reservations in recommending these cards now.**|
  
----- (Added 1/3/2013 - updated 5/8/13) +//-- (Added 1/3/2013 - updated 5/8/13)// 
-| Brand | Nvidia ​|+ 
 +| Brand | NVIDIA ​|
 | Model | GTX | | Model | GTX |
 | Recommended by: | Brian James | | Recommended by: | Brian James |
-| Notes: | I've used a couple cards from this series including the GTX 470 and GTX 690. Both have worked great and there are many drivers available on Nvidia's site if your particular hardware combination is causing display issues. Updating the drivers is often the fix. |+| Notes: | I've used a couple cards from this series including the GTX 470 and GTX 690. Both have worked great and there are many drivers available on NVIDIA's site if your particular hardware combination is causing display issues. Updating the drivers is often the fix. | 
 + 
 +//-- (Added 12/​16/​2011)//​
  
----- (Added 12/16/2011) 
 | Brand | AMD | | Brand | AMD |
 | Model | FirePro v7900 and FirePro v5900 | | Model | FirePro v7900 and FirePro v5900 |
 | Recommended by: | Jeff LaSor | | Recommended by: | Jeff LaSor |
-| Notes: | It turns out that I just recently completed a certification process for AMD using both the v5900 and v7900, and McNeel was even mentioned in their launch of these cards. Both are very nice cards and both work incredibly well, especially given their very small footprints compared to other cards. Long story short, I've replaced my FirePro v8800 in my development box with the FirePro v7900. Yes, it's that good. All I can say is that AMD is now doing a great job getting their cards working for real life situations and programs rather than trying to figure out what the next marketing hype can be made about something that rhymes with Pooduh. All of the latest V5 display features have been tested and confirmed as working for the v5900 and v7900. If you can afford the 7900 then get it. The 5900 performance is not as good, but again, it's amazing how good it really is given its overall size, power consumption and heat generation. Two thumbs up for AMD! |+| Notes: | I just recently completed a certification process for AMD using both the v5900 and v7900, and McNeel was even mentioned in their launch of these cards. Both are very nice cards and both work incredibly well, especially given their very small footprints compared to other cards. Long story short, I've replaced my FirePro v8800 in my development box with the FirePro v7900. Yes, it's that good. All I can say is that AMD is now doing a great job getting their cards working for real life situations and programs rather than trying to figure out what the next marketing hype can be made about something that rhymes with Pooduh. All of the latest V5 display features have been tested and confirmed as working for the v5900 and v7900. If you can afford the 7900 then get it. The 5900 performance is not as good, but again, it's amazing how good it really is given its overall size, power consumptionand heat generation. Two thumbs up for AMD! |
  
-|Addition August 2012: | **//Several advanced users on the Rhino newsgroup have reported bad experiences with this card in the area of antialiasing//** to the point of removing the cards from their machines and going back to a Nvidia ​card.  This card is far inferior to a Nvidia ​card. Jeff himself has stated //"Nvidia ​has been, is, and probably always will be better at AA than AMD... Why? I have no idea. Will it change? I have no idea? Can I fix it on my end? I have no idea, but so far I don't think so."// ​  So, if you are planning to buy one of these cards, make sure to check the newsgroup and do your research first. |+|Addition August 2012: | **//Several advanced users on the Rhino newsgroup have reported bad experiences with this card in the area of anti-aliasing//** to the point of removing the cards from their machines and going back to a NVIDIA ​card.  This card is far inferior to a NVIDIA ​card. Jeff himself has stated //"NVIDIA ​has been, is, and probably always will be better at AA than AMD... Why? I have no idea. Will it change? I have no idea? Can I fix it on my end? I have no idea, but so far I don't think so."// ​  So, if you are planning to buy one of these cards, make sure to check the newsgroup and do your research first. |
  
----- (Added 4/11/2011)+//-- (Added 4/11/2011)//
 | Brand | AMD/ATI | | Brand | AMD/ATI |
 | Model | FirePro V5800 | | Model | FirePro V5800 |
 | Recommended by: | Aya Maeda | | Recommended by: | Aya Maeda |
 | Driver version: | ATI driver 8.77.6.3 Rev.A | | Driver version: | ATI driver 8.77.6.3 Rev.A |
-| Notes: | This card had strange display problems when Zooming and Panning until the user called AMD and they recommended the above listed drivers. These cards were originally recommended for Microstation. Do not use the "Use region buffers when available" ​in OpenGL options. |+| Notes: | This card had strange display problems when Zooming and Panning until the user called AMD and they recommended the above listed drivers. These cards were originally recommended for Microstation. Do not use the **Use region buffers when available** in OpenGL options. |
  
----- (Added 3/2/2011) +//-- (Added 3/2/2011)// 
-| Brand | Nvidia ​+ 
-| Model | Nvidia ​GTX 295 |+| Brand | NVIDIA ​
 +| Model | NVIDIA ​GTX 295 |
 | Recommended by: | Rhino Support Newsgroup | | Recommended by: | Rhino Support Newsgroup |
 | Notes: | The newer GTX 300, 400, and 500 series replacements seems to be intentionally disabled for OpenGL performance. Their OpenGL performance is measurably slower than the GTX 295. | | Notes: | The newer GTX 300, 400, and 500 series replacements seems to be intentionally disabled for OpenGL performance. Their OpenGL performance is measurably slower than the GTX 295. |
  
----- (Added 3/2/2011) +//-- (Added 3/2/2011)// 
-| Brand | Nvidia ​+ 
-| Model | Nvidia ​Quadro 4000, 5000, 6000 |+| Brand | NVIDIA ​
 +| Model | NVIDIA ​Quadro 4000, 5000, 6000 |
 | Recommended by: | Rhino Support Newsgroup | | Recommended by: | Rhino Support Newsgroup |
 | Notes: | These are expensive cards but deliver better performance than the GTX 295. Most users report good performance and minimal issues using the ODE drivers. | | Notes: | These are expensive cards but deliver better performance than the GTX 295. Most users report good performance and minimal issues using the ODE drivers. |
  
  
----- (Added 3/2/2011)+//-- (Added 3/2/2011)// 
 | Brand | Intel| | Brand | Intel|
 | Model | Intel HD Graphics| | Model | Intel HD Graphics|
-| <color red>Not recommended</​color> ​BY: | John Brock, <​tech@mcneel.com>​ |+| <color red>Not recommended</​color> ​by: | John Brock, <​tech@mcneel.com>​ |
 | Note: | I manually process a lot of Rhino crash reports. These cards are total junk for OpenGL based applications like Rhino. <color red>​Avoid them!</​color>​ Lots of crashes even with relatively simple commands like PictureFrame. Be aware that many laptop makers are using these. Avoid them! | | Note: | I manually process a lot of Rhino crash reports. These cards are total junk for OpenGL based applications like Rhino. <color red>​Avoid them!</​color>​ Lots of crashes even with relatively simple commands like PictureFrame. Be aware that many laptop makers are using these. Avoid them! |
  
----- (Added 3/2/2011)+//-- (Added 3/2/2011)//
 | Brand | Intel| | Brand | Intel|
 | Model | Intel 82865G Graphics Controller| | Model | Intel 82865G Graphics Controller|
 | Model | Intel 82945G Express Chipset Family| | Model | Intel 82945G Express Chipset Family|
 | Model | Mobile Intel 4 Series Express Chipset Family| | Model | Mobile Intel 4 Series Express Chipset Family|
-| <color red>Not recommended</​color> ​BY: | John Brock, <​tech@mcneel.com>​ |+| <color red>Not recommended</​color> ​by: | John Brock, <​tech@mcneel.com>​ |
 | Note: | These are more bad cards. These cards are not intended for OpenGL based, graphics intensive applications like Rhino. They are commonly found on inexpensive laptops intended for email, Internet browsing, and are good for very little else. That said, they will work, but they do not support accelerated graphics. | | Note: | These are more bad cards. These cards are not intended for OpenGL based, graphics intensive applications like Rhino. They are commonly found on inexpensive laptops intended for email, Internet browsing, and are good for very little else. That said, they will work, but they do not support accelerated graphics. |
  
----- (Added 1/4/2011)+//-- (Added 1/4/2011)//
  
 | Brand | NVIDIA | | Brand | NVIDIA |
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 | Note: | If you work a lot with curves or isocurves visible, these are great with Rhino. | | Note: | If you work a lot with curves or isocurves visible, these are great with Rhino. |
  
----- (Added 1/4/2011)+//-- (Added 1/4/2011)//
  
 | Brand | NVIDIA | | Brand | NVIDIA |
 | Model | GeForce 2xx series | | Model | GeForce 2xx series |
 | Recommended by: | Jørgen, <​holo1@holografisk.no>​ | | Recommended by: | Jørgen, <​holo1@holografisk.no>​ |
-| Note: | The nVida Geforce ​4xx and 5xx series are apparently no faster than the previous generations. So go for the 2xx series instead. |+| Note: | The NVIDIA GeForce ​4xx and 5xx series are apparently no faster than the previous generations. So go for the 2xx series instead. |
    
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 | Brand | AMD/ATI | | Brand | AMD/ATI |
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 | Note: | My development box has the FirePro v8750 in it (for over a year now), and it's what I've been using to development most of the newer Rhino 5 display features. | | Note: | My development box has the FirePro v8750 in it (for over a year now), and it's what I've been using to development most of the newer Rhino 5 display features. |
  
----- (Added 1/4/2011)+//-- (Added 1/4/2011)//
  
 | Brand | AMD/ATI | | Brand | AMD/ATI |
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-======The following entries are still valid but are getting pretty old. -JB======+=====The following entries are still valid but are getting pretty old. -JB=====
 | Brand | NVIDIA | | Brand | NVIDIA |
 | Model | GeForce 8600M GT 256MB | | Model | GeForce 8600M GT 256MB |
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 | Rhino versions used with | V2, V3, V4 | | Rhino versions used with | V2, V3, V4 |
 | Known problems | None | | Known problems | None |
-| Comments | This card works very well and is one of the few "workstation graphics" ​cards available on laptop computers. ​ The "Quadro" ​line of cards is designed for [[rhino:​opengl|OpenGL]] graphics applications like Rhino. This was one of the cards that was used for testing the new V4 display pipeline. ​ This card has always been a solid performer for me.  It is running in a Dell Precision M60 laptop.|+| Comments | This card works very well and is one of the few workstation graphics cards available on laptop computers. ​ The Quadro line of cards is designed for [[rhino:​opengl|OpenGL]] graphics applications like Rhino. This was one of the cards that was used for testing the new V4 display pipeline. ​ This card has always been a solid performer for me.  It is running in a Dell Precision M60 laptop.|
 | Submitted by: | John Brock, <​jb@mcneel.com>​ | | Submitted by: | John Brock, <​jb@mcneel.com>​ |
  
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-| Brand | Nvidia ​|+| Brand | NVIDIA ​|
 | Model | GeForce 4200 GO | | Model | GeForce 4200 GO |
 | BIOS version | 4.28.20.31.10 | | BIOS version | 4.28.20.31.10 |
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